President Trump says “we are a nation of believers,” creationist Ken Ham calls FFRF “liars,” and Bill O’Reilly (who has bashed FFRF) gets dumped from FOX News, oh my! FFRF staff attorney Andrew Seidel describes the escalating “war of words” between Ken Ham and FFRF over the Kentucky Ark Encounter. Then we talk with an authentic American hero, Ishmael Jaffree, FFRF’s first “Freethinker of the Year” awardee, who won the 1985 Supreme Court Wallace v. Jaffree case stopping so-called “silent prayer” in public schools.

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