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After reporting on state/church news around the country, FFRF’s Senior Counsel Sam Grover tells us about the FFRF court victory against the Texas governor that took nine years to finalize! We hear the song “Because” by Reverend Billy and the Stop Shopping Choir. Then, we speak with “Reverend Billy” (William Talen), the “pastor” of the secular Earth Church in New York City who uses performance art to combat consumerism and save the planet.
We describe our legal efforts to gain information about the attempt by the Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Education to put the bible into every classroom, and similar attempts in Tennessee to inject religion into government. We hear Rupert Brooke’s poem “Heaven” (from the point of view of a fish) set to music by Dan Barker. Then we talk with Cara Fitzpatrick, author of the new book, The Death of Public School: How Conservatives Won the War Over Education in America.
July 25, 2024 – Project 2025 and “divine intervention” are discussed, as well as state/church complaints and victories in Oklahoma, Louisiana, Illinois, New Jersey and Tennessee. FFRF Anne Nicol Gaylor Legal Fellow Sammi Lawrence joins us to talk about our legal victory allowing a nonreligious after-school group to meet on campus alongside the religious Good News Club in Memphis, Tenn. Then, we talk with evolutionary psychologist Will M. Gervais about his new book Disbelief: The Origins of Atheism in a Religious Species.
July 18, 2024 – Christian nationalist rhetoric is heating up, especially regarding the assassination attempt of Donald Trump. We report on a state/church victory in Tennessee and state/church complaints in New Mexico, Texas, Missouri, Kentucky and Indiana. After hearing a hilarious take on the bible by comedian Robin Williams, we speak with Cait West, author of the new book RIFT: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy.
We report on FFRF’s efforts to keep Christian nationalists in check around the country. Honoring the anniversary of the birth of the anti-fascist singer/songwriter Woody Guthrie, we hear the funk/soul version of “This Land is Your Land” performed by Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings. Then, FFRF’s Legal Director Patrick Elliott describes our lawsuit challenging the Louisiana law requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in all public-school classrooms and our efforts to rein in Oklahoma’s Christian nationalist state superintendent of public instruction.
The Christian nationalist “Project 2025” and the Ten Commandments are the focus of this week’s show. We hear Dan Barker’s song “We, The People,” challenging the notion that we are “one nation, under God.” Then, sociologist Samuel L. Perry, author of The Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy, describes the clear and present danger of mixing religion and government.
We announce state/church victories and complaints in Louisiana, Idaho, North Carolina, Texas and Mississippi. FFRF Senior Counsel Sam Grover tells us about the lawsuit FFRF has filed this week with a coalition challenging Louisiana’s new law requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in all public school classrooms. Then, Tony-nominated Broadway producer, director and theater owner Eric Krebs tells us why the theater is his religion.
We announce plans to sue the state of Louisiana over their new law requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in all public school classrooms. We hear Congressman Jared Huffman and comedian John Oliver describe the Christian nationalist dangers of Project 2025. Then historian Bryan Mark Rigg tells us about the religious nationalism undergirding the atrocities of the Japanese military (30 million deaths) under the Shinto emperor Hirohito as described in his book Japan’s Holocaust: History of Imperial Japan’s Mass Murder and Rape During World War II.
We celebrate the 96th birthday of the Broadway composer Charles Strouse, a lifelong atheist, by hearing the protest song he wrote for the musical “Golden Boy,” “No More,” sung by Sammy Davis Jr. We also reprise part of our 2009 interview with Strouse. Then we speak with Professor Anthony B. Pinn about his new book, The Black Practice of Disbelief: An Introduction to the Principles, History, and Communities of Black Nonbelievers.