The new episode of “We Dissent” tackles the concerning rise of deceptive religious “health care” organizations.
On episode 45, FFRF Deputy Legal Director Liz Cavell and Americans United Legal Director Rebecca Markert are joined by special guest Founder and Principal of Secular Strategies Sarah Levin. Levin talks about health care sharing ministries, a billion-dollar religious industry. The trio discusses what these entities are and are not, and pushes for these organizations to have more transparency.
“We Dissent,” which first aired in May 2022, is a legal affairs show for atheists, agnostics and humanists, offering legal wisdom from the secular viewpoint of women lawyers. The show is a collaboration of the Freedom From Religion Foundation and Americans United.
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August 25, 2025