Tis the season to report on state/church entanglements, as well as state/church victories. This week we listen to professor Anthea Butler, author of White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America and contributor to the 1619 Project, deliver her “Do Mess With Texas” speech at FFRF’s 45th annual convention in San Antonio, warning us about religious threats to democracy.

Listen to the podcast here.