Is Vice President Mike Pence delusional when he thinks Jesus is talking to him? Is a Georgia senator’s proposed law (in response to FFRF victories) to allow public school teachers to pray with students constitutional? After discussing the recent Florida shooting, FFRF’s “In Science We Trust” billboard in Atlanta, and hearing a child prompted by parents to call FFRF to tell us we are “going to hell,” we talk with novelist Tova Mirvis, whose newest book, The Book of Separation, is a moving memoir about divorcing not only her husband, but her entire Orthodox Jewish faith.

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