This week we discuss the oral arguments in two federal cases by FFRF: Barker v. Conroy, in DC Circuit Court of Appeals, dealing with discrimination by the chaplain of the U.S. House of Representatives, and Gaylor v. Mnuchin, in Chicago’s 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, dealing with FFRF’s challenge of the IRS code that allows ministers to exclude their “housing allowance” from income. Then we talk with Cecile Richards, former president of Planned Parenthood, about her new book, Make Trouble: Standing Up, Speaking Out, and Finding the Courage to Lead–My Life Story.

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