Sarah Haider, co-founder of Ex Muslims of North America (exmna.org) will receive FFRF’s “Freethought Heroine” award at our convention in San Francisco in November. She talks to us about the irony that while the number of Ex-Muslims is growing rapidly in the United States, the challenges of leaving Islam are becoming more dangerous. Then we interview international lawyer, chess promoter, and private investment fund manager Richard A. Conn, Jr., about his new book: Earthbound Parent: How (and Why) to Raise Your Little Angels Without Religion.

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