We mourn the death of scientist and atheist Stephen Hawking. FFRF attorney Ryan Jayne tells us about stopping a North Carolina County from paying for a church mural. Communications Director Amit Pal warns us about the scary nomination of extremist evangelical Mike Pompeo for Secretary of State. Then we talk with Toni Van Pelt, president of the National Organization for Women, about equality, inclusivity, and the importance of secular values in moving women’s rights forward.

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