FFRF attorney Sam Grover updates us on the oral arguments in our “Do mess with Texas” lawsuit before the federal 5th Circuit Court of Appeals challenging Gov. Greg Abbot’s censorship of our Bill of Rights nativity display at the state capitol. Then the actress and author Alice Greczyn offers a scientific explanation for ecstatic religious experiences, which she describes in her talk: “Drunk, High and Hypnotized: How Neurotheology Healed My Religious Trauma.”

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