We mourn the death of former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, and celebrate the anniversary of the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention which led to woman’s suffrage. Freethinkers of color are encouraged to “come out of the closet.” After hearing some of Dan Barker’s early Christian songs that he wrote for children, we talk with Marian Wiggins, former senior editor for Gospel Light, a publisher of Christian Sunday School and Vacation Bible School curricula, who used to work with Dan and who has also left the faith and is now a freethinker.

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