FFRF’s Director of Communications Amit Pal updates us on Indian Prime Minister Modi’s attempt to turn secular India into an officially Hindu nation. After hearing the “comfort music” song “Don’t Fence Me In,” by atheist songwriter Cole Porter, we talk with FFRF’s Director of Governmental Affairs Mark Dann about what it’s like to be a D.C. lobbyist during the pandemic, and what accomplishments FFRF has garnered on Capitol Hill with the Congressional Freethought Caucus and the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.

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