FFRF’s Director of Strategic Response Andrew Seidel has been watching the Senate confirmation hearings for Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court and concludes that he is “a wrecking ball aimed at the wall of separation between church and state.” After listening to Dan Barker’s song for children, “Keep An Open Mind,” we talk with former Adventist pastor Ryan Bell, who is now National Organizing Manager for the Secular Student Alliance, promoting freethought on college and high-school campuses.

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