Guests: Chris Line; Ann Druyan. After we report on national and regional news, FFRF attorney Chris Line updates us on the many state/church complaints and victories he has been handling around the country. Then we hear author, educator and Emmy-winning producer of the “Cosmos” TV series Ann Druyan (along with her daughter Sasha Sagan) as she accepts FFRF’s “Emperor Has No Clothes” award.

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