“In God We Trust” has been mandated to be displayed prominently in South Dakota public schools, and FFRF is complaining about it. We talk with Jacob McGee, a winner in FFRF’s High-School student essay contest. Then we interview former evangelical pastor of 37 years, Dave Warnock — who is now an atheist who has worked with The Clergy Project, and who has just been diagnosed with ALS — about his “Dying Out Loud” campaign regarding how a nonbeliever deals with a terminal illness.

Listen to the podcast here.