The 2018 evangelical “Values Voter Summit” shows that the religious right has abandoned all pretense of values. FFRF attorney Chris Line tells us about some of his recent state/church victories in Utah, Georgia, and Alabama. Then we talk with biographer Angelica Shirley Carpenter about her new book, the long-overdue first biography of a 19th-century freethinking feminist (who, as L. Frank Baum’s mother-in-law, was dubbed “The Mother of Oz”): Born Criminal: Matilda Joslyn Gage, Radical Suffragist.

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