We Dissent: How state/church separation has become ‘heads I win, tails you lose’

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The newest episode of “We Dissent” covers the long, complex history of the fight for state/church separation.

On episode 18, “We Dissent” hosts FFRF Legal Director Rebecca Markert, FFRF Attorney Liz Cavell and American Atheist Attorney Alison Gill discuss state/church separation with Professor Caroline Corbin, a constitutional law professor at the University of Miami. They review the history of Establishment Clause jurisprudence, remind listeners about what the Supreme Court did to the religion clauses in 2022, and talk about where we stand now with regard to rights under the First Amendment.

As stated in the show description: “TLDR: If you’re a Christian, rest assured it’s a ‘Heads I Win, Tails You Lose’ court.”

“We Dissent,” which first aired in April 2022, is a legal affairs show for atheists, agnostics and humanists, offering legal wisdom from the secular viewpoint of women lawyers. The show is a collaboration of the Freedom From Religion Foundation and American Atheists.

Find previous episodes here, which examine developments affecting the separation of church and state in the U.S. Supreme Court and lower federal courts. Past episodes include discussions about court reform, religion behind bars and abortion, and also feature a range of expert guests.

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